Tag: deficit

Thinking about Social Security is so confusing it hurts

Thinking about Social Security is so confusing it hurts

We’ve all heard many different things about Social Security and its effect on the deficit. Well, it is not that complicated but it is a bit confusing so contradictory things can be said. One side (mostly Democrats) says Social security does not add to the deficit because such a large surplus was built-up and it is now being spend so we don’t need to worry for now but there are long-term problem. The other side (mostly Republicans) say there is a problem now and we need to correct it because it is contributing to the deficit.

Fact Check has had a series of articles about various claim on Social Security. Although they find inaccuracies on both sides, they have said on several occasions during the past few years that Social Security does contribute to the deficit.

So why the confusion? Often political claims are made to scare you into voting against the other guy. And quite often they are distortions or in some case outright lies. But in this case, both sides have some truth on their side. But neither tells the whole truth. Or at least that is how I look at it.

The fact is our government is paying our more than it takes in Social Security taxes. But the side that thinks this is not a problem points to Social Security having a cushion in saving from all those years of surplus. This is true, but as I see it, that is the confusing point.

The surplus is invested in US treasury bonds. Seems a reasonable thing to do as US treasury bonds are considered very safe investments. But when Social Security cashes these it, we need to borrow the money to pay Social Security for the bond.

So Social Security does contribute to the deficit.

But I guess you could say the same about any bond holder. Say Mr X has a US treasury bond. And the bond’s term is up and he cashes it and uses they money elsewhere. Is Mr X a contributor to the deficit? Say he decides to reinvest in treasury bonds. He will collect interest. That would also contribute to the deficit, too.

So is the fact that Social Security contributes to the deficit meaningful? Not in itself, I think. As we see in the above paragraph, paying our debts to investors also contributes to the deficit.

But it seems to me (but I am neither an economist or politician) that cashing-in US treasury bonds would increase the deficit but not cause an increase in the national debt. Confusing, isn’t it! The bond that was cashed it no longer a debt and even though we need to borrow to pay off the debt, the over all debt is the same. Of course interest is incurred in the new debt but it would have also been incurred with the old debt.

The real difference is we can chose to stiff our senior citizens but not other investors. If we refuse to pay back investors or pay them less than agreed, we go into default and nobody wants to lend us money (and we do need to borrow.)

But we certainly have a moral, if not legal, debt to seniors who have paid their taxes for years. The question is do we cut payments to them or adjust the system other ways. Remember this as we have our endless budget talks.

Ridiculous pledge, oath of office, and fiscal cliff

Ridiculous pledge, oath of office, and fiscal cliff

As our Congress tries to negotiate the fiscal cliff one of the major difficulties is that many members have pledged not to raise taxes. This ridiculous pledge is to Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.

But members of Congress have taken a more solemn pledge in their oath of office.

A few have now decided to abandon their “no taxes” pledge if it interferes with governing.

I am not sure if this is encouraging news or it is discouraging that there are only a few of these brave souls. I would think it fairly obvious that the oath of office trumps a “no taxes” pledge to a private party.

A false savings by repeal of Obamacare

A false savings by repeal of Obamacare

I have many disagreements with Mitt Romney’s tax and budget plans and here is one that may surprise a few people who think his promises are all about saving money. On his website, he lists several savings. Among them-

Repeal Obamacare, which would save $95 billion in 2016

The House recently passed a bill that did just that. Or at least it would do so if it also passed the Senate and was not vetoed. Seems a bit unlikely now but there next year there is sure to be a different Congress and maybe a new President. But my point was that the House did pass this bill, HR 6079, which would repeal Obamacare and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) looked at the fiscal consequences.

In a “Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act”, the CBO did a 10 year estimate of spending and revenue which would result if that legislation became law.

Sure enough there were big saving there but the government was forgoing even more revenue. The bottom line is a net loss to the government of 109 billion dollars. Since this is just an estimate a reasonable guess is that the average cost is about 10 or 11 billion dollars per year. This could just be added to the deficit or we could just add this to Mitt Romney’s tax plan.

I’m sure this figure does vary from year to year as different parts of Obamacare are implemented but since the average appears to actually be net loss to the government Governor Romney should explain why he thinks this action will save 95 billion dollars in 2016. And he might want to mention what he thinks will happen in all those other years.

Mitt Romney gets almost  specific

Mitt Romney gets almost specific

Mitt Romney has been a bit short on details when it comes to his plans. For example, he will cut taxes by 20% (that does sound specific) but he wants to keep revenue about the same and will do so by cutting deductions and loopholes (which are not specified). He has said on a few occasions that this cutting of the deductions will not cause the middle class to pay a larger portion of taxes than they pay now. At the October 3 debate he added that he will not increase the deficit or cut education.

He will lay-out a few broad principles such as the above and congress will find the answer. As I have said before trust him and trust congress. It is certainly a plan but not one in which I have much faith.

He has also said he will cut federal expenditures. He has not given many details. But a the debate, he did tell us that he would “stop the subsidy to PBS”. This despite loving Big Bird.

There is about a trillion dollar deficit. The PBS subsidy is 450 million dollars. For most of us (even Mr. Romney) this is a lot of money. But it is only a very small portion of the deficit .0005 or one twentieth of a percent).

Does Mr. Romney have any specifics on the other 99.95% of the deficit he needs to cut? One specific he has managed to come up with solves about one two-thousandth of the deficit but may result in killing Big Bird.