Tag: Greer

Horace Greer – Happy Birthday

Horace Greer – Happy Birthday

I thinking about the Bad Boy Greers of New York city, such an interesting bunch.

The older one, Horace Greer is having a birthday this week. Happy Birthday Horace. Horace A. Greer is best known for Hollywood scandal in the 1920s involving a leading actress of the time, Mabel Normand.

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Bad Boy Greers of New York City

Bad Boy Greers of New York City

I keep coming back to the Bad Boy Greers, such an interesting bunch. Of course that goes back to Matthew Greer and Ruth Allingham, I wonder how they would have felt about the Bad Boy Greers but, of course, they were dead before the Bad Boy grandchildren were even born.

I wrote about this Greer family several years back but I just want to focus on 3 brothers who I’ll call the Bad Boy Greers. They were what genealogist would call collateral relatives since they are not direct ancestors but were first cousins to one of my grandfathers.
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Thomas Allingham (1798-1883) of Glencar, Killasnet Parish, Co. Leitrim, Ireland.

Thomas Allingham (1798-1883) of Glencar, Killasnet Parish, Co. Leitrim, Ireland.

Thomas Allingham (c1798-1883) was a farmer in Sracreeghan, Killasnet Parish, Co. Leitrim, Ireland. This part of the parish was called Glencar or Glenlough.

He had 4 children that we know of but I think there must have been more. Elizabeth Allingham was born about 1826 and married John McBrien. Ruth Allingham was probably born in the 1830s and her marriage to Matthew Greer is Continue reading “Thomas Allingham (1798-1883) of Glencar, Killasnet Parish, Co. Leitrim, Ireland.”

Ruth Allingham Greer (about 1835-1887)

Ruth Allingham Greer (about 1835-1887)

Genealogy facts seems to come in unexpected bunches. For years you try to break a brick wall in your research and suddenly the wall breaks and a flood of new information comes your way.

One brick wall involved Ruth Allingham Greer, my great great grandmother. The first record we have is her marriage to Matthew Greer in 1854 in Glencar, Co Leitrim, Ireland.

From that marriage record, we thought she was probably born around 1835, give or take a few years. We also found records of several births to this couple in Sligo. Continue reading “Ruth Allingham Greer (about 1835-1887)”

William Greer Scotland to Brooklyn 1849-1943

William Greer Scotland to Brooklyn 1849-1943

One branch of my family is descended from Ruth Allingham of Glencar, Leitrim, Ireland who married Matthew Greer.

William Greer (1849-1943) was Ruth’s stepchild. Born of Matthew Greer and Jane Burkhard in Scotland on Feb 14 1849 (according to his death cert). He was raised in Sligo, Ireland by Ruth and Matthew. It seems he was the first in the Allingham-Greer family to emigrate to New York (about 1872) and played an important part in gradually bringing over the rest of the family. He married Elizabeth Farrington around 1875.

Children of William and Elizabeth Continue reading “William Greer Scotland to Brooklyn 1849-1943”

Drescher mystery

Drescher mystery

A little over a week ago I posed several question in the bog in my entry Is Marie Greer really Maria Dresher ?. I have found some answers but not the one asked in the title.

I found an index entry of Marie Jennie Drescher ‘s birth certificate at family search (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WZ9-FVJ). She was born 05 Sep 1909. Her father is William Drescher and the mother is Lottie Grae Drescher. I assume “Grae” is really Greer.

I found a marriage cert that seemed to confirm the names of the parents.

So now I am pretty sure who Mr. Dresher is. But this still leaves several of my questions unanswered.

Is Marie Greer really Maria Dresher ?

Is Marie Greer really Maria Dresher ?

I was looking at the John Greer and Julia Hopkins Family of New York again and noticed a coincidence or maybe not.

I had noted a daughter Marrie born around 1909 who seems to have died in childhood, I assume the name is actually Marie or maybe Mary or Maria and it was just written with two “r”s in the 1910 census when she was less than a year old. I had assumed Marie Greer died young because she did not appeared in the 1915 New York census or any subsequent census records. Lottie is still Lottie Greer in the 1910 census.

But the 1915 census shows the daughter Lottie as Lottie Dresher with 2 daughters Maria Dresher (age 6) and Rita Dresher (age 2). Lottie and her daughters are living with her mother. Continue reading “Is Marie Greer really Maria Dresher ?”

Lucy Greer Collins born 1859 Sligo Ireland

Lucy Greer Collins born 1859 Sligo Ireland

Lucy Greer Collins was probably born about 1859. Lucy Greer was probably born in Sligo town, Sligo, Ireland to Matthew Greer and Ruth Allingham of Glencar in County Leitrim.

I had not known of Lucy’s existence before finding an abstract of a New York City marriage record listing parents Matthew Greer and Ruth Aligan (a common misspelling). Continue reading “Lucy Greer Collins born 1859 Sligo Ireland”

John Greer in Folsom Prison

John Greer in Folsom Prison

As mentioned before I’ve been filling in some details on collateral relatives in hopes I’ll find something that gives me some insight or additional direction on my more direct line. More specifically, I’ve been looking at the John Greer and Julia Mary Hopkins family of New York City.

I’ve previously written about two sons Charles John Greer and Horace A. Greer.

Now I add a third son with legal trouble, John J. Greer. I do not know what the J is for. It seems very probable that this is the same John J. Greer that was in Folsom Prison (Folsom, CA) in the 1940s. Second degree burglary put Greer in Folsom. His prior record included prison stays for theft and counterfeiting in New York, Connecticut, Atlanta (GA), and Lewisburg (PA).

If this sounds familiar to anyone, I’d be eager to hear and glad to share any information.

Matthew Greer, son of John

Matthew Greer, son of John

This is about Matthew Greer. But there are 3 people in my family tree named Matthew Greer and so I specified above that he was the son of John Greer.

This Matthew Greer lived at home, first with his parent and then his widowed mother. In the last record I found on him, he was living with his mother in the 1925 New York census. Then the trail went cold. I could not find him in subsequent census records or in any type of record. Continue reading “Matthew Greer, son of John”

Charles Greer who escaped from Sing Sing

Charles Greer who escaped from Sing Sing

I’ve written several times about the Charles Greer who escaped from Sing Sing in 1922. I believed he was the child of John and Julia Greer of New York City.

I did find a newspaper article that seemed to confirm I was right but I was hoping to find a second source. Yesterday I found it.

Ancestry.com now has added some Sing Sing admission records and a little searching led to the record of Charles Greer received in 1920 and convicted of murder as reported in the newspapers. Julia Greer of 1487 Amsterdam Ave, NYC was listed on the record.

Chink Greer of the Slant Eyes

Chink Greer of the Slant Eyes

According to the Yonkers NY Statesman of January 4, 1924, the Charles Greer who escaped from Sing Sing was known as Chink Greer of the Slant Eyes to the New York police and was a brother to Horace Greer of Mabel Normand scandal fame. The author of the article is unknown since a byline is not included but the article is called “Brother of Dines assailant killed local man in 1920”.

According to this article Charles “Chink” Greer developed a disease as a result of exposure of the elements During his escape and the two days before his recapture. After he was recaptured, he was sent to Clinton Prison in Dannemora, NY where is died on December 27, 1922.

Charles “Chink” Greer

Charles “Chink” Greer

In my reading about collateral relatives I’ve been filling in information on the John Greer and Julia Mary Hopkins family of New York City, I found some interesting stuff on Charles John Greer, a son born around 1900.

The first hit that this might be interesting Continue reading “Charles “Chink” Greer”